Modern Police Quandries

Now here is a good example of what a police officer faces: Generally Damned if you do, Damned if you don't. 

The general response: AWW-- the police officer should not have shot him!

O K lets look at the other options--

--- Ignore the call, with the logic that "This guy is only hurting himself".  
       PENALTY-- The cops shoulda done SOMETHING!

---Respond and wait the guy out. And then he either kills himself or someone else. 
         PENALTY-- The cops shoulda done SOMETHING!

---Let the guy get close to you and reason with him. 

     PENALTY... This officer tried that 

The Incident that generated this observation: 

http://www.dcourier.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1086&ArticleID=125872&TM=42184.89 November 29, 2013 11/29/2013 6:00:00 AM Witness account of police shooting describes an alcohol-fueled rage Scott Orr The Daily Courier PRESCOTT - Witnesses to the Nov. 19 fatal shooting of Larry Clay by a police officer who said Clay charged him with two large kitchen knives told investigators that Clay was depressed and had started to "destroy" his house just before the incident, according to police reports obtained by The Daily Courier. Clay's stepdaughter's husband, Eric Tetreault, told police that Clay, 44, suffered from depression and experienced "suicidal trips" and abused alcohol, the report said. Eric told an officer about a July incident in which Clay had become abusive with his wife's daughter Aubrey and police were called. Eric said that Clay and Aubrey had gone to a counseling session Nov. 17, but that it had gone badly, the report said. He told officers that Clay's wife, Melissa, went out of town on business Nov. 18. On Nov. 19, the day of the shooting, while Melissa was still gone, Eric said, Clay told him that "all he wanted to do was leave," which Eric took to mean that he wanted to leave his wife. Eric said he felt Clay was drunk at the time. When Eric left, he said, Clay texted him with a message that "he would be 'off to new horizons,' and quitting work," the report said. Later Tuesday, Melissa called Eric and told him to get over to Clay's house because they'd been on the phone and he was "destroying" the house. Eric found Clay had run a garden hose in through a window and saw there had been some sort of fire inside that Clay had put out. He also was tearing up Aubrey's old room with a shovel, the report said. Clay came out to the garage to talk with Eric, but when he began to insult Ashley, Eric's wife, the situation escalated, and Clay began to poke him in the chest and say, "What are you going to do? Do it now," the report said. Eric remarked he'd never seen Clay act like that before. Eric walked away, and Clay began to stab himself, the report said. At that point, Eric called 911. Clay came out to the front porch with two eight-inch kitchen knives and said he'd kill himself if police were called. When Clay took off his shirt, he had a bleeding wound, Eric said. There was a "good amount of blood coming from it," he told police. Officer Jared Willis, the first to arrive, parked down the street and walked up to the house, Eric told investigators, and when Clay saw Willis he "became frantic and began swinging his arms around with a knife in each hand," the report said. "'I am prepared to die,'" Eric said Clay told Willis. Willis told Clay to drop the knives, but instead, Clay advanced on him, walking steadily, not running, until he was about 10 feet away, and Willis shot him three times. Witness James Knightly told another officer that he watched the situation develop and believed that being killed by Willis "was what Larry planned," another report said. Willis has been on a 40-work-hour administrative leave, routine after a shooting, and will return to duty Saturday, Prescott Police spokesman Lt. Ken Morley said.

JARRETT is driving the wagon ( to Hell)

Though I can NOT find the quote on Google, Bill Hemmer on FOX NEWS this morning quoted Valerie Jarrett as saying in an interview yesterday that "WE are going to grind this thing (Obamacare) out" .

Translation: She will not let Obama or anyone else make Obamacare any more people friendly.

Now, some may have awakened from a slumber and determined not to be so low information.

So far, Jarrett (Obama's Chief White House Advisor/dictator) has ordered:
--That no aid go to U S Citizens under attack in Benghazi

--The "Shutdown" of the government and all the resulting tactics (Like closing the WWII Memorial )


My perspective is that shortly after Obama's election in 2008, various writers conferred the title "Slumlord" on Jarrett.

When you are a slumlord, the people who rent from you do not have much of a choice about their conditions. They get their welfare checks, pay the slumlord, and keep quiet. That is what she is used to.

What I don't think she is aware of is that U S Citizens can be pushed so far--then resistance begins.
The resistance I see today is that only 106,000 people have signed up for ObamaCare

The population of the U S is roughly 314 MILLION

So far, we are told that the people signing up are. ONE, needing care, and TWO, most of those signing went on MediCaid .

BOTTOM LINE: U S Citizens are not slum dwellers, are not buying it and will find a way around it

IF I COULD GO BACK---

This video ( 3 sections) is of the Big Sur Marathon.

I ran it 1989, 1990, 1992 then 1994







BUT--after the 2004 Marine Corps Marathon, I developed atrial fibrillation. Got that resolved, and started having back problems. (Legs would go numb, severe sciatic pain in rt leg) .

So, I do the gym three times a week and miss the running

ALARMISTS in Action

Below, you will see a photo of  a California Highway Patrol Officer and a Roseville, CA Police Officer manning a Checkpoint on a Perimeter .
You will see that the "Editorial" is not signed. Who ever wrote this piece has ZERO Police experience .

ITEM 1: The shooter-who is probably an Illegal Alien and is definitely on Parole--had shot an ICE Agent and wounded three Roseville P D Officers. The Media will not tell you that this neighborhood (Barrio) was where this where this Perp lived.
Oh, by the way--it is Illegal by California and Federal Law for a Convicted Felon to be in possession (In Possession = holding it in his hands)

ITEM 2:  A perimeter is to prevent the Perp--again WHO IS ARMED, HAS SHOT THREE PEOPLE--from escaping to and threatening another area of the megalopolis around Sacramento CA.




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PHOTO: CHECKPOINT COPS POINT GUNS AT MOTORISTS

Innocent Americans in cross-hairs during police manhunts

 http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-motorists/#wPc0jFYXylzd3X73.99

Four law-enforcement officers were wounded Friday in a suburb of Sacramento, Calif., during an attempt to take a wanted gang member into custody.

The shooting occurred in Roseville, a suburb about 20 miles northeast of the state capital.

Helicopters circled overhead and armored vehicles and other police cars flocked to the area following an initial report that a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent had been shot.

A sporadic gun battle lasted into the night and the commotion snarled traffic for hours. Police responded by setting up a checkpoint and pointing guns at motorists, as this Associated Press photo shows.

The photo, (credited to AP Photo/The Sacramento Bee, Randall Benton) is captioned, “A California Highway Patrol officer and another emergency responder stop a vehicle at a checkpoint near the neighborhood where a federal immigration officer was shot and three local police officers were wounded during a violent confrontation with a suspect in the Sacramento suburb of Roseville on Friday, Oct. 25, 2013.”

The suspect, 32-year-old gang member Samuel Nathan Duran, eventually surrendered after leaving a nearby house in which he had been holed up.

During the Boston Marathon-bombings manhunt earlier this year, heavily armed police officers in Watertown, Mass., went door-to-door without search warrants terrorizing families at gunpoint and ransacking homes.

Manhunt for Boston Marathon bombing suspects in Watertown, Mass.

Former U.S. Rep. and presidential candidate Ron Paul later observed the manhunt was more frightening than the attack itself, saying it resembled “scenes from a military coup in a far off Banana Republic.”

Similarly, during the manhunt for Christopher Dorner, the ex-LAPD officer whose killing rampage that left four people dead and three others wounded, police shot and injured two innocent women delivering newspapers in a truck that “resembled” Dorner’s vehicle.

“I feel scared to go out at night. I am scared that I will get shot by police,” victim Margie Carranza later told NBC4.

Eight LAPD officers fired allegedly more than 100 bullets at Carranza and her mother.

About two blocks away and 25 minutes after the mother-daughter pair was shot, officers opened fire on David Perdue’s black Honda Ridgeline.

Police fired at least three bullets at Perdue’s truck before ordering him out and detaining him for an hour, according to documents filed in federal court in Los Angeles July 8.

t http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/photo-checkpoint-cops-point-guns-at-motorists/#wPc0jFYXylzd3X73.99

Cops are not always mean

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/10/florida-cop-buys-100-in-groceries-for-woman-caught-shoplifting-food/

By Christina Ng
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Oct 23, 2013 3:49pm

A struggling Florida mom who was caught trying to shoplift hundreds of dollars of groceries ended up with food and a ride home from a kind-hearted police officer, instead of a ride to the stationhouse.

When Miami-Dade Police Officer Vicki Thomas, 55, was dispatched to look into a shoplifting case at a Publix grocery store, a store manager led her to Jessica Robles.

“She was crying. I said, ‘Okay, what did she take?’ And he pointed to a grocery cart that was full of groceries,” Thomas told ABCNews.com. “I’ve been on [the job] 23 years, and I went, wow.”

“She just filled up the grocery cart and she just walked out, which shocked me and I asked her, ‘Why?’” Thomas recalled. “She said, ‘My children were hungry.’ And that immediately impacted me.”

Miami-Dade Police Officer Vicki Thomas bought $100 worth of groceries for a struggling mom who was caught shoplifting food she said was for her children in Miami-Dade, Fla. (Courtesy of WSVN)

Thomas said Robles told her through tears, “I’d love to be able to tell you I’ll never do this again, but I can’t because my children are hungry.”

“My grandchildren flashed before my eyes,” Thomas said. “I knew at that time what I was going to do. I knew I was going to buy her groceries.”

Thomas and her partner took the woman to their car, completed her paperwork and then Thomas asked her to wait a few minutes.

“I grabbed my debit card, ran back into the store and bought things that would sustain her for a week or so and when I walked out she saw that I had the cart of groceries and she burst out in tears and asked if she could hug me, which is kind of unusual for the suspect to be hugging the officer,” Thomas said with a laugh. “I let her hug me.”

Thomas made it clear that she technically arrested Robles. The woman had no priors for shoplifting and since the amount of goods she tried to steal amounted to just under $300, the cut-off for a misdemeanor, it was up to Thomas’ discretion whether to arrest her or give her the misdemeanor and get a promise to appear in court. She chose the latter.

The woman didn’t have a car, so Thomas loaded the $100 worth of groceries into the police car and the officers gave her a ride home.

“I’m a full-service cop,” Thomas joked.

At Robles’ house, Thomas met two of her three children.

“She went into the house and said, ‘Come outside. The officer bought us groceries,’” Thomas said. “They came outside and they were helping us bring the groceries in, going through the bags asking, ‘Can I eat this? Can I have that?’”

“I honestly didn’t know the magnitude of how bad it was until later,” she said. “We got the groceries in and I got back in my car and took the next call.”

Robles could not be reached for comment.

Thomas hesitantly admitted that she has done good deeds for people she encounters on the job “a lot,” such as buying meals, but admitted this was an unusual case. She said it’s not uncommon for police to go above and beyond their required duties.

She recalled an incident where her sergeant arrested a woman’s husband for domestic violence and the woman didn’t have any gas in her car to go to her mother’s house. The sergeant put $80 of gas in the car.

“We do it silently,” Thomas said. “The victims know and I figure she’s the one that mattered. I just don’t normally buy subjects groceries.”

• Ted Cruz speech at Welcome Home Rally • Houston, TX • 10/21/13

Cruz: ‘Nigerian Email Scammers’ Running Obamacare Website

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/10/22/cruz-nigerian-email-scammers-running-obamacare-website/

Another Legend passes

DAVE's NOTE:  Lee Minikus was a motor rider working in the South LA CHP Office when I was the July 1971-Jan 1972

Message From Dan Rosen to CHP1010:

Just received a call.  Lee Minikus #2307 passed away this morning after a valiant battle with leukemia and lung cancer.  He was residing in Bellingham WA. Not much info at this time.  Will keep everyone apprised as info becomes available.  He was a strong supporter of CAHP Widows & Orphans Charity.

Watts Riots-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watts_Riots

Inciting incident

On the evening of Wednesday, August 11, 1965, 21-year-old Marquette Frye, an African American man behind the wheel of his mother's 1955 Buick, was pulled over by white California Highway Patrol motorcycle officer Lee Minikus on suspicion of driving while intoxicated. Minikus was convinced that Frye was under the influence and radioed for his vehicle to be impounded. Marquette's brother Ronald, a passenger in the vehicle, walked to their house nearby, bringing their mother, Rena Price, back with him. When Rena Price reached the intersection of Avalon Boulevard and 116th Street that evening, she scolded Frye about drinking and driving, he recalled in a 1985 interview with the Orlando Sentinel. The situation quickly escalated: Someone shoved Price, Frye was struck, Price jumped an officer, another officer pulled out a shotgun. Backup police officers attempted to arrest Frye by using physical force to subdue him. After rumors spread that the police had roughed Price up and kicked a pregnant woman, angry mobs formed.^[6][7] As the situation intensified, growing crowds of local residents watching the exchange began yelling and throwing objects at the police officers. Frye's mother and brother fought with the officers and they were eventually arrested along with Marquette.After Price's and the Frye brothers' arrests, the crowd continued to grow. Police came to the scene to break up the crowd several times that night, but were attacked by rocks and concrete A 119-square-kilometer (46-square-mile) swath of Los Angeles would be transformed into a combat zone during the ensuing six days

Name calling--Crime or Excuse

Read this in my mail this morning. 
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-american-tribe.html

So while I'm out cleaning and feeding the horses, I reflected on it. 

So while I'm out cleaning and feeding the horses, I reflected on it. 

I am over 70. Have had several occupations, but the longest was as a Calif. Highway Patrol Officer for over 30 years. 

My perception and resulting conclusion regarding name calling--and the prohibition thereof, is that Liberals/Progressives/Communists demand this--of us.

They call their opponents unfounded, vile, libelous names, while declaring that we are crossing some line if we do so.

Secondly, this usually applies to groups that were either engaging in an unlawful or immoral behavior (Gays, Pedophiles,dope smokers) or of a group that performed and/or produced in a substandard level. Libs/Progs/Commies ALWAYS declare the behavior or non-production or non achievement resulted in prejudice from types that founded and built America. 

A great example is the legal myth of Profiling (Invented by Defense Lawyers to exempt "Minority" Groups from Criminality) .

Simple gathering  by myself and others officers showed that it was those "minorities" that committed the violations and crimes.

Little things add up

This writing, or sequence, is a lot older than I am.

For Want of a Nail

For want of a nail the shoe was lost.For want of a shoe the horse was lost.For want of a horse the rider was lost.For want of a rider the message was lost.For want of a message the battle was lost.For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.

As I do chores, walk the dogs, or maybe just sitting somewhere, waiting for someone or something, I start analyzing. 

It occurred to me that:
Following detail like this made the United States a great country--although most people were from "somewhere else". These people wanted a better life, under a system of government that was in place where they came from. 

They found that you could "Work your way up", and if desired, become a Carnegie (Scotland) or a Rockefeller. Most regarded these men as heartless and only caring for dollars the subordinates made for them, and most did not want to be looked at in that light. Most were content to do a job that paid a salary or an hourly wage. 

That "Job" might have been to make buggy wheels, or later car wheels, to be used in making a wagon or later, a car. But every effort helped. And so, you had your Ford Motor Company, your Golden Gate Bridge, and your Hoover Dam. 

But it took a coordinated effort. 

What we see now are companies sending their work overseas, to China, Vietnam, Thailand. Essentially, the workers there do what they are told to do, and really never have a hope of progressing.  They have the work because Sundry and Various persons in the U S decided that their work was more valuable than the price the manufacturer could sell it for. 

That said, I see us sliding into a state where it looks like Mexico: Ninety Nine per cent at the poverty level, run by the one-per cent wealthy class. 

This is REALLY being pushed by B H Obama and his followers. He makes sure that the only people who receive aid are people who vote for him (They receive aid at the poverty level), or people who finance his regime. (These people get BILLIONS in your tax dollars) . Everyone else gets taxed, has their property seized due to some regulation that his regime has imposed.

The only bright spot in this scenario is that Muslims will never be able to run ANY country. WHY? Because their whole life-style is one of non-cooperation. You disagree with someone--You kill them.  Someone has a different religion than you do--You kill them. 

This does not generate cooperation or unity. 

Wal-Mart returns job to worker who stopped attack

Below, you will find a story about a store employee taking action that is morally justified
Most large chain stores such as Kroger, Safeway, etc have this policy: Employees are told to watch what happens, and be a witness.  Many stores include that cost (Shoplifting) into their "Shrink" That is--They pass it on to paying customers.

The BIG reason for this policy is-- LIABILITY.

In many States, as in the US in general, the legal profession are the biggest political contributors. Returning the favor that lawyer, now an elected official,  makes laws that allow lawyers to sue more people for more money.

Big Chain stores are viewed as "Deep Pockets" --Having lots of money--that they can pay to someone "Harmed" on their property

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/national/midwest/2013/10/wal_mart_returns_job_to_worker_who_stopped_attack

HARTLAND TOWNSHIP, Mich. — Kristopher Oswald said he did the right thing when he interrupted the assault of a woman in a Michigan Wal-Mart parking lot, even though it violated the national retailer's policies for employees.

And after firing Oswald from the Hartland Township store, northwest of Detroit, Wal-Mart has decided to give him his job back.

"We looked into the situation, reviewed the facts, talked to witnesses," Brooke Buchanan, a spokeswoman for Wal-Mart Stores Inc., said Friday. "While Mr. Oswald broke a policy of ours — a policy put in place to protect our associates and our customers ... we realize Mr. Oswald's intentions were good."

The Bentonville, Ark.-based company left messages for Oswald to tell him he still had a job, but as of late Friday had not received a reply.

Oswald told WXYZ-TV in Detroit earlier that he wasn't sure if he would take back his job if offered.

The 30-year-old has said he was in his car on his break about 2:30 a.m. Sunday when he saw a man grabbing a woman. He said he asked her if she needed help and the man started punching him in the head and yelling that he was going to kill him. Oswald said he was able to get on top of the man, but then two other men jumped him from behind.

Livingston County sheriff's deputies arrived and halted the fight.

Oswald said store management decided to end his temporary assignment. He had worked for Wal-Mart for about seven weeks.

"We have a protocol in place: See something. Say something," Buchanan said Friday.

 "We encourage associates to alert their management and call police.

"There are circumstances where we need to take a step back."

Deadly drug cartel shootout with Mexico police linked to "grenade-walking" scandal

The Vote to END THE SHUTDOWN--and SELL OUT TO OBAMA.

O K FOLKS--Here  are the BAD, the GOOD, and the Cowards .

The ONLY POWER that Republicans have is to pass --or deny-- funding legislation. 

This bullshit of "Verify Household Income"  is sound good, feel good useless law. 

Right now,  Los Angeles County pays out FIVE to SIX BILLION dollars per quarter to ILLEGAL ALIENS--who aren't supposed to be able to draw benefits.

Keep in mind all the laws that Obama/Holder were SUPPOSED to enforce 
(Example--dismissing charges of voter intimidation against Black Panthers--AFTER they were convicted) Ignoring Immigration Law.  Pushing prosecution of a man who had defended himself (Zimmerman) . Threatening Boeing with labor law prosecution for not favoring unions.  Harassing Sheriff Joe because he enforced law against Illegal Aliens






FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 550 (Republicans in roman; Democrats in italic; Independents underlined)
      H R 2775      YEA-AND-NAY      16-Oct-2013      10:18 PM
      QUESTION:  On Motion to Concur in the Senate Amendments
      BILL TITLE: To condition the provision of premium and cost-sharing subsidies under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act upon a certification that a program to verify household income and other qualifications for such subsidies is operational, and for other purposes

	YEAS	NAYS	PRES	NV
REPUBLICAN	87	144		1
DEMOCRATIC	198			2
INDEPENDENT
TOTALS	285	144		3

---- YEAS    285 ---

Andrews Bachus Barber Barletta Barrow (GA) Bass Beatty Becerra Benishek Bera (CA) Bilirakis Bishop (GA) Bishop (NY) Blumenauer Boehner Bonamici Boustany Brady (PA) Braley (IA) Brooks (IN) Brown (FL) Brownley (CA) Buchanan Bustos Butterfield Calvert Camp Cantor Capito Capps Capuano Cárdenas Carney Carson (IN) Cartwright Castor (FL) Castro (TX) Chu Cicilline Clarke Clay Cleaver Clyburn Coble Coffman Cohen Cole Connolly Conyers Cook Cooper Costa Cotton Courtney Cramer Crawford Crenshaw Crowley Cuellar Cummings Daines Davis (CA) Davis, Danny Davis, Rodney DeFazio DeGette Delaney DeLauro DelBene Dent Deutch Diaz-Balart Dingell Doggett Doyle Duckworth Edwards Ellison Engel Enyart Eshoo Esty Farr Fattah Fitzpatrick Fortenberry Foster Frankel (FL) Frelinghuysen Fudge Gabbard Gallego Garamendi Garcia Gardner

Gerlach Gibson Grayson Green, Al Green, Gene Griffin (AR) Grijalva Grimm Guthrie Gutiérrez Hahn Hanabusa Hanna Harper Hastings (FL) Hastings (WA) Heck (NV) Heck (WA) Herrera Beutler Higgins Himes Hinojosa Holt Honda Horsford Hoyer Huffman Israel Issa Jackson Lee Jeffries Jenkins Johnson (GA) Johnson, E. B. Joyce Kaptur Keating Kelly (IL) Kelly (PA) Kennedy Kildee Kilmer Kind King (NY) Kinzinger (IL) Kirkpatrick Kline Kuster Lance Langevin Larsen (WA) Larson (CT) Latham Lee (CA) Levin Lewis Lipinski LoBiondo Loebsack Lofgren Lowenthal Lowey Lujan Grisham (NM) Luján, Ben Ray (NM) Lynch Maffei Maloney, Carolyn Maloney, Sean Matheson Matsui McCarthy (CA) McCollum McDermott McGovern McHenry McIntyre McKeon McKinley McMorris Rodgers McNerney Meehan Meeks Meng Michaud Miller, Gary Miller, George Moore Moran Murphy (FL) Murphy (PA) Nadler Napolitano Neal Negrete McLeod Nolan

Nunes O'Rourke Owens Pallone Pascrell Pastor (AZ) Paulsen Payne Pelosi Perlmutter Peters (CA) Peters (MI) Peterson Pingree (ME) Pittenger Pocan Polis Price (NC) Quigley Rahall Rangel Reichert Ribble Richmond Rigell Rogers (KY) Rogers (MI) Ros-Lehtinen Roskam Roybal-Allard Ruiz Runyan Ruppersberger Ryan (OH) Sánchez, Linda T. Sanchez, Loretta Sarbanes Schakowsky Schiff Schneider Schock Schrader Schwartz Scott (VA) Scott, David Serrano Sewell (AL) Shea-Porter Sherman Shimkus Shuster Simpson Sinema Sires Slaughter Smith (NE) Smith (NJ) Smith (WA) Speier Stivers Swalwell (CA) Takano Terry Thompson (CA) Thompson (MS) Thompson (PA) Tiberi Tierney Tipton Titus Tonko Tsongas Upton Valadao Van Hollen Vargas Veasey Vela Velázquez Visclosky Walz Wasserman Schultz Waters Watt Waxman Webster (FL) Welch Whitfield Wilson (FL) Wittman Wolf Womack Yarmuth Young (AK) Young (IN)

---- NAYS    144 ---

Aderholt Amash Amodei Bachmann Barr Barton Bentivolio Bishop (UT) Black Blackburn Brady (TX) Bridenstine Brooks (AL) Broun (GA) Bucshon Burgess Campbell Carter Cassidy Chabot Chaffetz Collins (GA) Collins (NY) Conaway Culberson Denham DeSantis DesJarlais Duffy Duncan (SC) Duncan (TN) Ellmers Farenthold Fincher Fleischmann Fleming Flores Forbes Foxx Franks (AZ) Garrett Gibbs Gingrey (GA) Gohmert Goodlatte Gosar Gowdy Granger

Graves (GA) Graves (MO) Griffith (VA) Hall Harris Hartzler Hensarling Holding Hudson Huelskamp Huizenga (MI) Hultgren Hunter Hurt Johnson (OH) Johnson, Sam Jones Jordan King (IA) Kingston Labrador LaMalfa Lamborn Lankford Latta Long Lucas Luetkemeyer Lummis Marchant Marino Massie McCaul McClintock Meadows Messer Mica Miller (FL) Miller (MI) Mullin Mulvaney Neugebauer Noem Nugent Nunnelee Olson Palazzo Pearce

Perry Petri Pitts Poe (TX) Pompeo Posey Price (GA) Radel Reed Renacci Rice (SC) Roby Roe (TN) Rogers (AL) Rohrabacher Rokita Rooney Ross Rothfus Royce Ryan (WI) Salmon Sanford Scalise Schweikert Scott, Austin Sensenbrenner Sessions Smith (MO) Smith (TX) Southerland Stewart Stockman Stutzman Thornberry Turner Wagner Walberg Walden Walorski Weber (TX) Wenstrup Westmoreland Williams Wilson (SC) Woodall Yoder Yoho

---- NOT VOTING    3 ---

McCarthy (NY)

Rush

Young (FL)

Congressman Trey (Ex- Federal Prosecutor) questions Chief Thug Park Ranger Jarvis

CHP Issues Warning After Shooting Reported on I-5 in Oceanside

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VIDEO AT LINK
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/CHP-Issues-Warning-After-Shooting-Reported-on-I-5-in-Oceanside-227823351.html

A shooting along a Southern California highway has the California Highway Patrol warning drivers and its own officers to avoid stops along a stretch of Interstate 5 north of San Diego.

Two Orange County women told police someone fired on their vehicle near Oceanside. Officials say the car took a shot-gun blast at close range around 2:30 a.m. Saturday in the northbound lanes, somewhere between the Brook Street overpass and the Mission Avenue exit ramp of I-5.

Investigators say the gunman was on the side of the road and struck the car just behind the passenger side.

The force of the bullet shattered glass but the victims had only minor injuries. The CHP said the car showed signs of multiple gunshots.

“We're talking a matter of inches here. It could have been a direct impact,” CHP Officer Bryan Sullivan said.

The shooting prompted a warning to all law enforcement, not just CHP, and to civilian motorists - avoid stopping in the area indefinitely.

“Anywhere you stop you're a sitting target for anything that can happen,” Sullivan said.

Specifically, CHP officers are not to pull drivers over on Interstate 5 between Oceanside Boulevard and Mission Avenue.

The stretch of I-5 is heavily congested with hundreds of thousands of cars passing through daily.

It is the most direct route to Los Angeles for visitors to San Diego like Saed Jones.

On Monday, Jones and friends left the Chargers game with low tire pressure.

They filled up at the same gas station where the two women whose car was hit with a shotgun blast Saturday had stopped for help.

“That would be horrible for a person to just drive down the highway and have to worry about if someone was going to shoot them. That's horrible,” Jones said.

CHP Officer Sullivan recommends drivers with car trouble should activate the vehicle’s hazards, get the car to the closest exit when possible and call 911 for help.

Investigators say they have had no other shooting instances reported in the area.

So far they have been unable to locate witnesses or even physical evidence.

No arrests have been made, and there's no word on a possible motive.

This was one of my beats with the CHP  that I worked as an Officer. The CHP Office is less than a miler from here 

A THOUGHT matched to the action

Open this one:



and then at the same time this one:

http://youtu.be/gpDbvlAI_A0

1000 mile march

Post by 1000 Mile March.

Government continues weak, ineffective, and appearing to be impotent

Jessica James ‏@jessicajames

This was what DC sent out to "deter the Veterans from invading the White House" .

Six of them are wearing Bike helmets. Three have riot type helmets. Two have full riot gear. The guy far left
looks like he just "jumped in" to see what's happening.

Seeing them "March" to the White House  would lead a man who has "Been to the show" to think, "I can kick these guy's asses-easy" .

They fanned out on the sidewalk in front of the White House, backs to the fence, and stood there.

May be wrong, but here's a thought.

 
Hitler took great care to pamper and coddle his people 
and they loved him -- and the Nazi regime -- for it. - 

 http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/hitler-feel-good-fuehrer-with-focus-on-social-benefits-t11523.html#sthash.UoGlEEGj.dpuf

Well, I was a law officer for 30+ years, and during that time, I earned a degree in Criminal Justice Administration and completed two years of Law School. 

Here is my thought:

All the National Parks are National because they are Public Property. So far, I have been to Yosemite, King's Canyon, the Grand Canyon, Zion, The Arches, and assorted other smaller parks. 

I never saw a "No Trespassing" sign posted. They charged me admission--until I turned 65, then I got a "Forever Pass". 

My thought: Next time a Park Ranger tries to stop and cite--especially on the Mall, where no admission is charged, I suggest getting his name and station address. Then, sue for False Arrest.

I'm sure they are going to come back with " I was acting under orders". 

That worked out real well at Nuremberg 

A Dawning

We were riding our horses along this morning. 
I was thinking about yesterday.  My Congressman, Dr. Paul Gosar, had planned a day to pick up trash along a mile of Hwy 89 near Chino Valley, CA. 
Several of his local staffers were out there. 
One woman related that she had a caller, who had called four times while she was out of the office, and the caller's message was "Tell him (Dr Gosar)--He's stupid bastard" . Same message--four times. 

Then I recalled this story:

Barack Obama is political king of the fake Twitter followers, with more than 19.5 MILLION online fans who don't really exist

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2430875/Barack-Obama-19-5m-fake-Twitter-followers.html

Then, this morning I had read this one:

BarackObama.com calling all troop twits to Twitter-

Tweet a Deceit is the order of the day

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/58373

Then , it dawned on me.

A combination of things has occurred. 

---There was a time when Liberal/Progressives (Lib/Progs) [We used to call them Communists] could expect normal people and Conservatives to "Be Civil" and not contest their ambitions and assertions. 

Certain actions by Obama (Make NO MISTAKE--the Orders Come from the top. They might be Obama--or they might be Valerie Jarrett, and Obama repeats them, but they come out of the Oval Office) such as barricading the WWII Memorial have lessened a truthful, honest, and to Lib/Progs--abrasive response. 

-- People that buy Obama's Bulls**t have dwindled down to a handful of either brainwashed Kool-Aid drinkers, or those that use Obama as a conduit to drain the treasury--can you say Solyndra or Fisker. 

-- So, it is now two things:

 One, trying to convince Conservatives that Obamaphiles still outnumber us. 

Two, trying to convince us that Obamacare is good, The debt ceiling needs to be raised, and we still do not need a budget. \

  A little known fact about a budget: A Budget --passed by Congress allows the House to fund, limit, or de-fund predatory Administrative agencies like IRS, EPA, and TSA. 

BORDER PATROL REP CLAIMS AGENTS BEING ORDERED TO STAND DOWN

http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/10/04/breitbart-exclusive-border-patrol-rep-claims-agents-ordered-stand-down

The National Border Patrol Council has come forward to reveal to the American public once again management practices that could be risking the lives of Americans -- and the lives of illegal immigrants. 

Shawn Moran, Vice President of the National Border Patrol Council, spoke exclusively with Breitbart News and claimed that Border Patrol management has begun the practice of ordering Border Patrol Agents to stand down and cease pursuing drug smugglers, human smugglers and traffickers, and illegal aliens. He also warned it could lead to illegal aliens entering the country from nations associated with terrorism.

“It doesn’t matter whether it’s drugs, bodies, or how large the group is, our agents are being ordered to stand down by Border Patrol management,” said Moran. "I have received reports from our agents in every single sector from San Diego to the Rio Grande Valley in Texas that they are receiving these orders."

"They are not being relieved in place, they are simply being told that someone else is being dispatched, but none of us have seen that occur," he explained. "We are simply being ordered to stand down and stop tracking and trying to apprehend the criminals.” He discussed the importance of agents being relieved in place when tracking an individual or group.

"Border Patrol senior leadership says the stand downs are a means of addressing budgetary shortfalls and making sure agents aren’t working longer shifts," Moran said. "The Border Patrol has a larger budget than ever, but the agents on the ground have not seen the benefits of an increased budget. The increased budget has not trickled down to the men and women with their boots on the ground."

"They are placing the budgetary concerns before the security of our border," Moran stated. "We have situations where top-level bureaucrats in the U.S. Border Patrol and in the Customs and Border Protection Agency are receiving massive bonuses -- some up to $64,000 --- for finding ways to reduce the pay Border Patrol Agents receive." 

"Groups that are outside of human trafficking, human smuggling, and drug smuggling are going to exploit these stand down orders as well, not only cartels but illegal aliens from nations that are tied to terrorism,” he warned.

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Nothing new here, folks.

What do I base that on?

1. In 1992, the Border Patrol had set up a Check Point on I-15, between Escondido, CA and Temecula, CA.  A Chev Suburban loaded with 32 Illegal Aliens, ran the check point. B P Agents pursued. The Suburban went off I-15, into Temecula, down streets zones 35 MPH at 70 mph. The High School was just getting out. Four students in a Honda Civic were leaving, and were broadsided by the Suburban. All four were killed.

The BP responded with Orders from HQ in D C. 

IF a suspected "Load Car" ( Car filled with Illegals) was attempted to be apprehended by a B P Agent using Red & Blue Overhead lights and a siren, and that Load Car VIOLATED ANY Traffic Law, the Agent was to: Turn off the lights and sired, execute a u-turn, and return to the originating point or position. 

Forty Per Cent of the Border Patrol is comprised of "Anchor Babies" or naturalized citizens. Their allegiance is to relatives in Mexico--Not the  United States.

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http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/zieve/060713

Sher: "David, thanks again for your time in addressing this vital issue that impacts all of us in the US. I'd like to start by asking you to explain some of the reasons that illegal immigration into the United States has become so uncontrollable over the last 30-40 years. Let's start with the makeup of the US Border Patrol. You mentioned that the US' affirmative action programs and the EEOC have been largely responsible in creating a situation, in that fully 70% of the USBP is now comprised of agents holding dual Mexican and US citizenship. Would you elaborate?"

David: "Sorry. That's not exactly what I said. I didn't make myself clearly understood. What I said was that 70% of the Border Patrol is Hispanic. That in and of itself isn't bad. Some of the most dedicated and aggressive officers I ever worked with were Hispanic. It is a bad thing that a huge number of those Hispanic Border Patrol Officers are anchor babies or derivative citizens. Let me explain; A Derivative citizen is someone who is born in a foreign country of at least one U.S. Citizen Parent. The Anchor Baby is someone whose parents who are residents and citizens of a foreign country but who is born here.

"It is unfortunate that there are U.S. Border Patrol Officers who, through a quirk of law, are U.S. citizens but whose loyalties, culture and mores are of and to a foreign nation. I am referring specifically to Mexico. We currently have Border Patrol Officers who were raised, educated and indoctrinated in Mexico. They regard themselves as Mexican first and their loyalties are to Mexico. They regard their mission as Border Patrol Officers as primarily to assure the safety of their fellow countrymen while they illegally enter the United States. This is why we have a history of Border Patrol Officers working for the Mexican human and drug smuggling cartels. Being raised in Mexico and having friends and family there, they have a support network to use when they get crosswise with U.S. law. Of course, when they get caught, they flee to Mexico where they have family and friends.

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Word was passed to the smugglers. If red and blue lights came on behind one of these vehicles--forget that it Could be a City Police Officer, a Deputy Sheriff, or a Highway Patrol Officer- the response was to accelerate to high speed with dangerous lane changes. Often on I-8, the Load Car would cross the center divider and go the wrong way. Several American unsuspecting citizens were killed like this in head on crashes.

 Mexico capitalized on this. In 1995, a Mexican Consul would almost beat the ambulances to crashes, and "Prep" the "Victims" for a lawsuit against what ever agency had been pursuing .

This was under Bill Clinton.

2. A B P Agent , on his way to Federal Court, spotted a family on the street in San Diego. 

http://articles.latimes.com/2003/aug/13/local/me-border13

Memo Curbs Arrests of Immigrants

After a backlash, the Border Patrol won't nab suspects except at the border or checkpoints. Now agents are angry.

After protests over recent immigration arrests in San Diego and San Juan Capistrano, Border Patrol officials have instructed agents not to make arrests on city streets or question suspected illegal immigrants except along the border and at highway checkpoints in Orange and Riverside counties.

The directive, outlined in an Aug. 8 memo, is aimed at agents in San Diego and southern areas of Orange and Riverside counties.

"The future of Border Patrol operations" depends on eliminating the public perception that agents occasionally conduct neighborhood sweeps, says the memo from William T. Veal, chief patrol agent for the greater San Diego area.

Agents reacted with anger and disbelief to the memo.

"I refuse not to do my job. They want us to turn a blind eye even if we know that an alien is here illegally, and a criminal [besides]. That's reprehensible," said agent Thane Gallagher, who is also a union official. "Whose mythical notion is this that once an illegal alien is in the U.S., we're supposed to turn our back?"

The policy was announced by Veal last week, after the Aug. 1 arrests of five members of a Mexican family by Border Patrol agents. The family -- parents, son, daughter and a nephew, all adults -- was (ALLEGEDLY) walking to the Mexican Consulate near downtown San Diego to apply for matricula consular cards, identification cards issued by the Mexican government to its citizens living in the United States. The arrests were made about a block from the consulate.

Later in the day, a friend of the family was arrested and deported when he went to retrieve the family's car, consular officials said.

The arrests sparked controversy and words of protest by Deputy Consul General Javier Diaz, who met with Veal to discuss the incident. Officials at the National Border Patrol Council Local 1613, which represents local agents, said Veal's directive was largely motivated by the outpouring of criticism leveled at the agency after the arrests. The incident was the first time in recent memory that such an arrest has occurred so close to a Mexican consulate in the United States, according to U.S. and Mexican authorities.

Mexican Consul General Rodulfo Figueroa said he was astonished by the arrests because of their proximity to his downtown office, where Mexican nationals have long been able to come without worrying about Border Patrol agents approaching them and where consular officials have been able to effectively do their job helping Mexicans in the U.S.

"There is sort of a unwritten agreement that it shouldn't happen," Figueroa said. "I don't know what brought them here."

Veal's memo was also shaped by fallout from a series of June arrests in San Juan Capistrano. In one instance, a father whose children were in grade school was arrested, forcing officials to place the children in a county facility.

The San Juan Capistrano arrests, and the wave of rumors and fears they fed, resulted in a meeting that attracted more than 400 people who met with the Mexican consul, lawyers and a U.S. immigration official in a church gymnasium.

Veal declined Tuesday to discuss the memo. A Border Patrol spokesman said the document is viewed as internal communication.

The memo was directed at all agents in the San Diego sector, which includes San Diego County and the border checkpoints in San Clemente and Temecula. It said agents are prohibited from initiating enforcement action in cities, residential areas, near workplaces and locations where day laborers gather. Agents are also prohibited from taking enforcement action while driving to assignments.

The priority for Border Patrol agents, Veal wrote, should be "maximum containment" of illegal immigration at the border and preventing the entry of terrorists. Enforcing immigration laws away from the border and at workplaces will be done by the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, he wrote.

Agents said the memo has had a chilling effect.

"Morale was already bad, but this memo sent it plummeting to the lowest point I've ever seen," said Shawn Moran, a spokesman for the union representing agents. "The guys and women are asking what management expects them to do, if not their jobs. We're telling them they have to follow the chief's orders."

Patricia Mariscal, a San Juan Capistrano activist who organized protests against the June arrests, welcomed the memo's message.

"This will allow the Border Patrol to continue with its mission of enforcing the immigration laws while at the same time treating immigrants with respect," said Mariscal. "But they've had other policies and regulations in place that they haven't followed in the past. I hope this is one they'll follow."

In San Diego, fallout from the arrest of the family near the Mexican Consulate has continued to cause unease.

While Moran defended the four agents who made the arrests, others said the Border Patrol had violated a long-held trust that the neighborhood around the consulate was sacred ground.

Mexican immigrant Angela Velasquez, 56, waited on a recent afternoon with her daughter, who was trying to get a Mexican passport. Velasquez said the area around the consulate should be a "protected zone," where undocumented immigrants don't have to worry about being arrested.

The American Friends Service Committee in San Diego has received several phone calls from apprehensive illegal immigrants since the arrest, said director Christian Ramirez.

"This has really sent shock waves throughout the Latino community," Ramirez said. "People have called to ask if it's safe to go to the Laundromat, supermarket, school, swimming lessons.

George W Bush was President then

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3. In 2004, B P Agents at the Temecula Check Point deduced that no transporter was coming through their station. Four Agents took vans and went to Riverside, San Bernardino, Upland, Ontario, and Chino, CA.  In four days, they had collected 440 Illegals off the streets. 

Rep. Joe Baca, D- San Bernardino, stormed into B P HQ in DC, ranting that the B P was "Disturbing his constituents". Very quickly, an order came from DC directing that "Agents would not leave their Check Points."

Again, under President George W. Bush